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MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 7:00am PST
>>> good morning. i'm chris jansing. two big showdowns today on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff and ambassador susan rice. both of these have been escalating, and on the fiscal cliff especially the clock is definitely ticking. let me give you a rundown of what's happening in the next couple hours. first, ambassador rice is meeting with two republican senators today. right now she's in with susan collins of maine. later she'll meet with bob corker. yesterday, too, she was on the hill defending herself over her comments following the benghazi attack, but the gop leaders only seemed more entrenched in their opposition. in addition, anytime now house democrats and house republicans will hold separate news conferences to talk about their closed-door meet ings on the fiscal cliff. at 11:30, president obama will make remarks at the white house surrounded by middle class americans who he says would see their taxes go up if congress can't make a deal. later he's hosting big business leaders to talk about ways to cut the deficit. joining me to talk about this, "washington post" political colu
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 8:00am PST
specifically right how giving the looming fiscal cliff. so i suggest -- or i imagine they will discuss that, as well. but do we expect anything larger to come out of this? the white house is managing expectations saying there is really no agenda for this luncheon. it's really to bury the hatchet and to allow the country to move on, as well. >> right now, though, we do know treasury secretary tim geithner as we were telling everyone was on the hill, these marathon meetings with congressional leaders. what more do we know about those meetings? obviously starting off with some of the harder ones at first bhak through nancy pelosi as his last. >> we know the treasury secretary will be heading to the hill with rob nabors. he will be meeting with all of these congressional leaders separately. starting off -- or including house speaker john boehner. of course boehner will be key to moving the needle on these fiscal cliff negotiations. this comes on the heels of a phone call between president obama and speaker boehner which occurred credit. my sources are telling me the phone call lasted for about
MSNBC
Nov 21, 2012 6:00am PST
was evolving and they didn't want to tip them off. we need to let this go. the fiscal cliff and jobs are far more important. >> and let's talk about the fiscal cliff and jobs. in your time in california you worked on in the state assembly, a state hit hard by a fiscal y crisis. >> i sure did. >> i want to talk to you about something you said in terms of medicare reform and medicaid. obviously republicans are saying, look, in exchange for any type of taxes going up, we want to see some real entitlement reform. you talk about cracking down on waste, fraud and abuse. is there enough revenue from waste, fraud and abuse and m medicare to get the type of serious deficit reform needed to bring down the $16 trillion debt? >> well, you know, i think anytime you're talking about a deficit, there's two ways to bring it down, and i know you know this well. you're either going to raise revenue or have cuts, and i would continue to argue for a balanced approach which means i do think you can find savings in both programs. but what i'm concerned about is what the real agenda is and the real agenda,
MSNBC
Nov 27, 2012 8:00pm PST
latest on the fiscal cliff. >>> the meeting with the president looks good for progressives. we'll get the scoop from james hoffa. >>> plus, breaking news. republicans running the benghazi witch hunt remain disturbed and troubles. >> i'm more disturbed and significantly troubled. >> i'm more troubled. >> joan walsh on today's big meeting with susan rice. >>> and yesterday ricks rolled fox news. >> i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> today fox news strikes back. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the white house is keeping republicans in a box. president obama is hitting the road to push the extension of tax cuts for income, for folks under $250,000 a year. the president will kick off his tour in southeastern pennsylvania on friday. today he met with small business owners at the white house and tomorrow he plans to meet with a group of middle-class families. republicans will be countering with their own events. house majority whip is holding a meeting with small
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 2:00am PST
, concerned about the economy and the gridlock in congress over the fiscal cliff. >> they're going to be pulling back a little because they don't know what to expect for 2013, and they want to remain cautious as we move forward into the next year. >> that was kristen dahlgren reporting. speaking of, congress returns from the holiday this week, still facing that so-called fiscal cliff. if a deal can't be reached by january 1st, americans would face half a trillion dollars more in taxes next year, coupled with $100 billion in cuts to domestic and defense spending. now, since the reagan era, most republicans have pledged not to raise taxes. as mike viqueira reports, there are signs of flexibility on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: it's a pledge almost all republicans have signed. to oppose tax increases of any kind. that once solid wall was showing crass. >> the pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> reporter: but republicans insist in return for defying party doctrine, democrats must agr
MSNBC
Nov 23, 2012 11:00am PST
weekend ends, the fiscal cliff negotiations will heat up. now the speaker of the house has thrown a new problem into the talks, can a deal actually be reached? >>> shoppers looking for their own kind of grand bargain today. we're going to look at the black friday crush at shopping malls and super stores all over this country. but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic
MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 9:00am PST
tax cuts. we have a fiscal curve/cliff/mole hill, however you choose to describe it, that includes, of course, the bush tax cuts, but also, the bigger piece is sequestration and the payroll tax cut again. another fight the president has had before. what do you make of his focus only on the bush tax cuts and specifically the middle income earners. >> this was a theme throughout the campaign, something he came out early on and hit hard on. it underscores this larger issue about inequality in this country which is an economic problem. you can't have a sustained recovery when 98% of the population hasn't gotten a raise in the last few years or decades depending on who they are. i think people are starting to focus on that. i think this issue of taxes is crucial of that. i think if we're going to go to the other cuts that need to happen, the entitlement reform you need to have a sense from the population that the rich are doing their part, that there is a sort of social cohesion. you can look to europe and see what happens when you don't have that. >> the president spoke in his comments
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 6:00am PST
in the last 100 years. with the so-called fiscal cliff looming mr. obama sends chief negotiator treasury secretary tim gheiter for individual meetings with each member of the conditioningal leadership which includes speaker john boehner, perhaps the most important player here. the meetings mark the beginning of the real negotiations. that doesn't mean the posturing stage is behind us. one capitol hill veteran, former fdic, sheila bair, a long-time staffer by the way who butted heads with geithner in the past, made this interesting observation to david gregory about tim geithner saying he's not the right guy for the white house to be sending in for these talks. >> do you think tim geithner, secretary geithner is the right person to lead the negotiations for the administration sf. >> i don't know. i don't think this is tim's strong suit. i think tim was given the job of treasury secretary because he understood the banking system. he's not a budget guy. he's not a tax guy. he's never really worked in this sphere. >> geithner is leading these talks for two reasons. he and the presid
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 3:00am PST
cash, let's get to the fiscal cliff. some developing news this morning. "politico" hassen e an exclusiv report that president obama and representative boehner had a "curt" telephone conversation. speak speaker boehner says he wants to move his position on tax rates but the president won't budge. he told him, if he has an alternative plan, he ought to put that forward rather than focusing on entitlements. the white house will send tim geithner to capitol hill for a meeting. yesterday the president met with ceos including at&t, goldman sachs, coca-cola and caterpillar, many of whom said after the meeting they emerged hopeful a deal could be struck to avoid the fiscal cliff. in another meeting with middle-class americans, president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> and i'll go anywhere, and i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. now's the time for us to work on what we all agree to, which is let's keep middle-class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 6:00am PST
return to washington this week and with just 36 days left to avert the so-called fiscal cliff becoming more apparent that senate republicans want a deal and they would like one pretty quick. but while there may be a bi-p t bipartisan consensus to raise taxes on the wealthy, the sides are still far apart on where the revenue will come from. staff level negotiations are a little bit more than stalled. not fully stalled but they didn't go so great last week and it's unclear where speaker boehner will get the votes for a deal that would raise tax rates. which is why he's pushing against that idea. two senate republicans up for re-election in 2014 have bucked norquist saying they are willing to let taxes ride. chambliss spoke to his hometown station. >> that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> on sunday south carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillio
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 2:00pm PST
something i know you're good on, that's the fiscal cliff. i want to have you on because i trust in you. thank you, kent conrad. >>> coming up, hot new evidence the republicans have learned nada, nothing, from the election they just lost. yesterday you saw the all-white republican chairmanships in the house of representatives. today's story, the marquee name for the republican party next year ken cuccinelli, a real winger. . wait until you catch his decisions on all kinds of issues affecting women, immigrants, everybody. this is the full monty of the right wing coming up in this election for governor of virginia. we'll be right back. right wing coming up in this victor! victor! i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! right wing coming up in this i'. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. right wing co
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 7:00am PST
meet with each leader this morning to talk about the fiscal cliff or slope or curve. but whatever you call it, politico's front page headline reads, fiscal cliff deal emerging. it hashes out the flame woframe agreement including $400 billion in cuts to entitlements. but how close are they really? depends on who you ask. >> what's going on between the decision makers is little to nothing. >> you can actually now see what the contours of the deal look like. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to overt this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> we will not negotiate the end of medicare. i don't know what it is with these republicans. >> it's safer if you're on the progressive end of the political spectrum to go over the fiscal cliff than it is to agree to some of the things they're talking about. >> ruth, where do you stand, deal or no deal? >> not who deal, but who are more pessimistic. the clock is really ticking. about ten legislative days left in the year. outlines are there but the willingness to do it and the ability to get it done in time, i'm more disappoint
MSNBC
Nov 27, 2012 10:00pm PST
more positive than most. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is president obama's
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 12:00am PST
, steve israel, on the democratic momentum on the fiscal cliff. plus. >> karen finney on the new bizarre attack on ambassador, susan rice. >> all of the sudden, we are the bell of the ball. we are here to say, it's time to start to dance. >>> latino voters help put president obama over the top. now, the hispanic caucus says they want action. representative luis gutierrez joins me tonight. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama is selling his economic agenda and using all the right tools. the president was surrounded today by middle class taxpayers at the white house as he pushed for an extension of the tax cuts for income below $250,000. he quas quick to highlight the break in the ranks with the republicans. >> i am glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress, seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. >> president obama isn't talking about some mode
MSNBC
Nov 27, 2012 8:00am PST
. >>> i want to go back to the other big story unfolding in washington. the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 11:00am PST
like that, even some saying it's bet gore off the fiscal cliff than accept a deal that does not raise the tax rates. as much as you hear this talk it all comes to looking good through the republican house. we do not know yet. we know the staff's been working back and forthe. there's been all sorts of things floating around. to correlate for what the tax cuts would be for the rest of the decade. it's complicated stuff. both teams growing at it. i know they spoke over the thanksgiving holiday, but we are not close to a gentlemen's agreement like you're perhaps hearing from the a few united states senators, tamron. >> thank you very much. let me bring in news nation's senior political reporter lois romano and cnn contributor and strategist keith boykin. we touched on comments on morning joe. he released a little more detail. it says in part republicans aren't against tax rate hikes because of one man or a pledge. we're against hiking rates because they're bad for the economy and hurt jobs. our first team points out it seems like the parties are ready to agree to a large point for taxes o
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 2:00am PST
rest of us, it is another day facing the fiscal cliff. negotiators are going to talk about specific proposaals for both sides to avoid that fiscal cliff. tracy pots joins us from washington with all the details. good morning to you. >> good morning, everyone. a number of high level but individual meetings scheduled here today on capitol hill with really just a handful of lawmakers who could have a big impact on your paycheck. tim giter in and rob neighbors bring the deficit cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> reporter: negotiators are meeting with boehner and top democrats. they heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in the negotiations like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful. it wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative is suggesting that while negotiations continue, congress should stop tax rates going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people. i think we shou
MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 11:00pm PST
ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's view, extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris kearns goodwin joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how he did it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> how's this for irony? mitt romney has finally captured 47% of america. remember this video that sunk the romney campaign? >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them. >> well, the cook report points out romney shared a popular vote of this country has fallen to, you guessed it, 47.4%. as expected to fall further, and settle at the 47 mark, exactly. we'll be right back. [ wom
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 9:00am PST
that business leader summit last week says that the looming fiscal cliff is already impacting his business. >> right now i'm not that bullish at all. in fact i'd say there's a great uncertainly that's just hanging over the entire economy because we're not confident that our guys can govern anymore. people like me just aren't hiring because we're not confident they can do it. >> well, the white house echoed that concern this morning. a new report says failing to act on the president's plan for middle class americans would freeze the economic recovery. obama's plan includes lower taxes on the first $250,000 earned by every american and tweaking the alternative minimum tax. the white house report estimates that consumer spending would fall by $200 million. now that's more than three times what consumers spent just over this entire holiday weekend. there could be a drag on a range of industries from cars and housing to restaurants and supermarkets, if congress can't reach a deal. and look, pocketbook issues are not the only problem here. carl levin, the democratic senator and chair of
MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 8:00am PST
talking about this, the austerity crisis, better known as the fiscal cliff facing washington and the country. this hour president obama will speak live at the white house flanked by middle-class families whose household budgets depend on congress reaching a deal by january 1st. his latest effort to use his bully pulpit. nearby on capitol hill, both parties are meeting behind closed doors at this very minute. each side hashing out where they are willing to compromise and where they are drawing the line in the sand. >>> the other big story we're watching for you, a second round of sitdowns for united nations ambassador susan rice, who's in an all-out campaign of her own to face her critics. after three republicans issued blistering comments yesterday, this morning rice is meeting with republican senator susan collins of maine and in an hour is expected to meet with senator bob corker of tennessee. rice's harshest krit eks are still vowing to block her potential nomination as next secretary of state. >> i think everybody gets to, one, be nominated, and, two, go through the hearings and
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 9:00am PST
away from the edge of the fiscal cliff, depends on who you believe. even with the clock ticking it's almost two week since president obama and john boehner met in person. nbc news confirms two leaders spoke by phone for 15 minutes last night a call described by politico as short and curt. boehner gave his state on the current talks a moment ago. >> no substancetive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over past two weeks. all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a v victory lap it needs leader. >> behind the scenes of the contours of a deal are starting to take shape, a trillion plus dollars in tax heights, entitlements of $400 billion and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts to offset the dreaded sequester. if the phoners haven't been gabfests the president is chatting up other folks including small business owners, middle class americans and mitt romney-loving ceos. if awkward meetings are par for the course in washington, the president's one today takes the cake. later this hour, president obama will sit down for a post-election
MSNBC
Nov 27, 2012 2:00am PST
capitol hill, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich. and warning that any more delay on a deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt-day retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with all of those details. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, lynn. good morning, everyone. as we track negotiations over the next few weeks, keep in mind that the key sticking point seems to be how do you get people who earn over $250,000 to contribute more? limit their deductions? close loopholes? or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set a
MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 2:00am PST
tax hikes and budget cuts from the so-called fiscal cliff. the president met with small business owners on tuesday to talk about the effect on their companies from taxes and other charges. right now congress is stalled over finding a solution as democrats demand higher taxes for high wage earners while republicans want cuts to entitlement programs. and last night on hardball, former republican senator alan simpson gave his thoughts on the fiscal cliff and failure of lawmakers to reach an agreement. p. >> they love their party more than they love their country. how it we get to that point, don't ask me, but the whole business of reform and money in the campaign and beat up the guy, and it's not a case of who wins. it's you want to be sure somebody loses. and i say to people whether it's grover norquist or whatever, lord's sake, if you can't step up to the plate, what can happen to you? they can't murder you, they can't burn your house. the only thing they can do is defeat for you re-election by throwing some coo-coo from the left or right on you and if that means more than your co
MSNBC
Nov 21, 2012 12:00am PST
, this is no time to get weak kneed about the fiscal cliff. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we need senators warren and webb, bennett to continue to stand up for us. >> the air war begins in the fight for the middle class. senator bernie sanders, leo jir regard and barbara lee on the fiscal cliff developments. >>> jim clyburn calls out the racial undertones. >> these are code words. >> karen finney is here with reaction. >> these are code words. >> karen finney is here with reaction. >>> congressman alan west finally calls it quits. >> we're not going to contest the certified results. >> the man who beat him joins me. >>> and it's the world according to the fonz. >> there are two kinds of people. cool and nerds. >> tonight the legendary henry winkler on the traditional america and the reelection of president obama. >>> good to have you with us. democrats have the upper hand in the fight for the middle class in this country. it's time to make sure that the party stays unified on the issue of debt reduction. bloomberg news reported on nervous democrats in the house and sen
MSNBC
Nov 28, 2012 6:00am PST
." >>> president obama ramps up the sales pitch on his fiscal cliff picks. will public pressure push republicans into a deal. one leading house republican who happens to be a former pollster takes a very vocal position on what he thinks his party needs to do and to do now. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice's attempt to smooth things over doesn't go over as well as she or the white house would have liked. guess who stepped out to vouch for her. none other than a retiring amigo, senator joe lieberman. >>> and new numbers on a hypothetical matchup for 2013 that would be sure to get some votes. what would happen if cory booker took on chris christie. that's not the only big 2013 news this morning on the campaign front. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 28, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. right to my first read of the morning. so is washington just running out the clock until about ten days before christmas when everyone smells the jet fuel and gets ready to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff? some days it feels that way. the president is s
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
of december on the so-called fiscal cliff, and with congress and the president probably waiting till the last minute, we now have basketball thursdays here on "the cycle." score! a tip of the jersey to hall of fame coach steve smith of north carolina. with all the talk and posturing going on, mr. director, do you have our fancy animation on this? he says it's not ready yet. >> why not? >> we'll go back to our preseason graphic. we're calling this, depending on how we feel that day, either the fiscal cliff. boo. the fiscal slope. hmm. the fiscal fiesta, my personal favorite. or the fiscal follies. this is from the boston celtics' game last night. celtic big man kevin garnett was fouled by brooklyn net kris i was married to a kardashian for five minutes humphries. boston guard rajon rondo didn't like it. both humphries and rondo were kicked out with another net, gerald wallace. i hope the negotiations on the fiscal whatever we call it don't end up like that. are you listening, mr. boehner. >> this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this i
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
on the fast approaching fiscal cliff with republicans possibly maybe looking to make a deal. with the deadline now just 36 days away, some top republicans suggest they could, shock, horror, break with their sacred pledge to grover norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> sounds great, doesn't it? only one problem, this apparent kiss-off to the anti-tax guru appears to be pure lip service. as mr. norquist himself expressed this morning in somewhat colorful language. >> no pledge taker has
MSNBC
Nov 27, 2012 7:00am PST
taxes or lower spending or going off the fiscal cliff. where are you? and how do you feel about tinkering with medicare and medicaid? >> look, i think we've got to put aside all of the sacred cows and really got to be willing, as dick durbin said, sit down and negotiate and come up with a plan, a long-term plan that's balanced, that looks at the domestic side of the budget, the defense side, the mandatory programs, and the revenue side. and if we're willing to do that, then i think we can get an agreement. but i think to go to the tax issue that you were talking about earlier, there are really two issues there. one is the amount of revenue that needs to be raised. but the other question is a fairness question. and if we're asking people to accept the sacrifices that they're going to be making if we're cutting spending in areas that are going to really affect middle class families and others, then we've also got to be willing to ask those who are doing the best in this country to share in that sacrifice. and what i've heard from people in new hampshire is they're willing to do th
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 8:00am PST
colleagues. >> a growing group of liberal fiscal cliff jumpers if you will as they're being called, they seem to be willing to risk everything, jump off the cliff if social safety nets face deep cuts while tax rates stay low for the wealthy. do you think that is smart politics or could it backfire against democrats? >> i think what the president has said is the right approach to take which is that we want to do everything we can to avoid the fiscal cliff consistent with what he said during the campaign which is that, number one, we have to focus on jobs and the jobs plan and, number two, we have to ask higher income individuals to start paying a little bit more to reduce the debt because if you don't, simple math tells you you will hit everybody else harder. the president's priority has been to protect the middle class and do that by asking higher income earners to pay a little bit more. so i think the president has been clear. he has set forward a plan to prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff and the choice republicans have is are they going to continue to insist on saying that no
MSNBC
Nov 26, 2012 7:00am PST
lot just know they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. here is the question. if republicans are building to eliminate deductions for wealthy, make the wealthy pay more, is it too far for democrats to push to get rates increased? what's the difference? >> i think the real problem here with democrats as far as democrats are concerned is how willing to do sbiegts entitlement reform are they? you heard lindsey graham say he is willing to change position on taxes if democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. president obama privately indicated he is willing to stick his neck out and durbin willing to do that and will nor liberal democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. we'll see if that is a bigger dynamic that changes this week. >> what is the danger i guess is one question because there are democrats like patty murray saying it isn't a cliff, it is a slope. >> the danger is a massive sudden drop in government spending and even if you hate government spending, spending does keep the economy going and when you cut that much spending all at once abruptly you crea
MSNBC
Nov 24, 2012 3:00am PST
fiscal and ends with cliff. your uncle at thanksgiving will say we have to do something about that fiscal cliff and really we got to do something to fix our skyrocketing deficit. our national deficit that he will tell you has been going up and up and up like a rocket and spiraling out of control like a something going out of control and paul ryan is just so right and if congress and president obama do not do something to stop the skyrock edding deficit, to sop up the red ink, if they don't do it by new year's or sometimes whenever the emergency is supposed to happen, we will go flying off the fiscal cliff. and not like these guys who mean to do that, but more like cliffhanger cliff on "the price is right" for whom going over the edge is really a dire mistake. beware the fiscal cliff. you will hear this at the thanksgiving dinner table. when someone inevitably brings up the fiscal cliff and how our sky rocketing deficit is a huge danger to us, do not crawl under the table. do not give up on thanksgiving. help your giant uncle understand that what he is freaking out about is not true
MSNBC
Nov 21, 2012 2:30am PST
finished relatively flat yesterday following a new warning from the central bank about the fiscal cliff. speaking to the economic club of new york, bed bernanke urged lawmakers to reach a deal to avoid the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. bernanke said going over the cliff would pose a substantial threat to the economy. >>> hewlett-packard stunned the markets after alleging an accounting scandal at its british software unit would cost the company $8 billion. hp stock plummeted 12% on tuesday. then there's the fate of the twinkie. it's not looking good. >> oh, no. >> hostess brands will proceed with a plan to go out of business after last-minute talks with striking workers broke down yesterday. the company and bakers union had entered mediation in an effort to try to save over 18,000 jobs. >>> president obama is calling on congress to follow the example set by former u.s. senator warren rudman of new hampshire who called for bipartisanship during his time in washington. he passed away on monday from complications from lymphoma. he warned against large federal deficits and was a fierce cr
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Nov 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> speaker boehner said the president needs to get serious about what spending cuts he's willing to make. but that was news to senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him, okay? >> he's not alone. all this comes as treasury secretary tim geithner held separate meetings today with boehner, reid, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell, and over at the white house spokesman jay carney said the debt ceiling should not be a pawn in any kind of fiscal gamesmanship. >> asking for a -- that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. >> now, if you're se
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Nov 28, 2012 11:00am PST
the fiscal cliff. the pr campaign he has now trying to get past republican opposition to raising taxes on the wealthy, tamron. >> mike, thank you very much. moving along to the further conversation on susan rice, joining me now, joel reuben, mike smerkonish and erin mcpike. thank you all for joining me. you have people at this point wondering if this is all about the battle that some republicans see ahead for the nomination of secretary of state and it's no longer about the benghazi investigation. i ask this question based on remarks made by susan collins today, senator corker and senator john mccain all related to the secretary of state position. let me play all of these comments together and get your reaction. >> i would need to have additional information before i could support her nomination. >> i would just ask the president to step back for a moment and realize that all of us here hold the secretary of state to a very different standard than most cabinet members. >> john kerry came been a whisper of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but i
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Nov 29, 2012 10:00am PST
to assume that would include a robust discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strateg
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Nov 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
election? >>> plus r we seeing the first signs of republicans giving ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's party. doo extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris good win joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how de it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? he loves risk. but whethe
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Nov 26, 2012 12:00pm PST
points. that was the dow. fearing the fiscal cliff approaching. since then it's been very quiet out of washington. we hear a push here arc nudge there, but nothing sizeable is happening. what does the market do, they put their pencils down. we're seeing volume, meaning who's trading. very low ahead of the fiscal cliff. and even though as you mentioned sentiment is that it's very unlikely that we will fall off the cliff, the market as i said, likes to be optimistic. they like to play the bull. and if we do end up falling off the cliff, it doesn't just affect defense spending. corporate ceos across the board are simply not spending money. they're not expanding. you're seeing capital expersondy turs. we could fall into a recession if, in fact, we fall off a cliff. most people don't think we will. we're really seeing no true signs of congress beyond a headline here, a headline there. >> as we've seen in this market time and began, what goes down always goes back up when it comes to wall street. even if we do see big drops leading up to a deal. >> absolutely. just today we spoke with a c
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Nov 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
alone for the average family of four if the nation is to go over the fiscal cliff. you know, there was one republican, you talked about the glimmers of hope for a compromise. it's tom cole of oklahoma who was quoted yesterday and this morning saying, you know what? let's go along with the president. you heard the sound bite. the president once again calling for congress to pass a tax cut for everybody making under $250,000 and come back to the rest later but the problem is, tom cole doesn't have the votes and neither does john boehner even if he wanted to put that on the floor so the goal of the pr campaign, the machinery kicking in to gear at the white house is to turn the voettes, get votes. swing counties, you know, the election may be over but the campaign continues. there are republicans around in these counties around philadelphia, three of the four districts, as a matter of fact, who can be counted only as swing voters in the house of representatives and that's the battleground where the fight is playing out, steve. >> okay. thanks as always. >>> now bringing in "the washington
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Nov 25, 2012 11:00am PST
verge of a second obama term in office? the economy, the fiscal cliff talks, the president's priorities in the next four years. our roundtable is here. david brooks of "the new york times." msnbc's reverend al sharpton. former ceo of hewlett-packard carly fiorina >> historian and film maker ken burns. and nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. and we'll hear from new york congressman, gregory meeks, as we check in on some of the hardest-hit victims of hurricane sandy and see how they offered thanks this weekend while surrounded by destruction. >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press." with david gregory. >>> president obama doing his part for the economy over the weekend out holiday shopping as part of small business saturday, picking up several children's book at an independent bookstore in arlington. >>> meanwhile, uncertainty in the middle east. more clashes in egypt over the weekend as police use tear gas this morning to disburse protesters in cairo. i want to start there. we have "new york
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Nov 21, 2012 8:00pm PST
wants the affordable care act on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman elijah cummings will respond. papa john's plays politics with pizza and the people fight back. >> no, no, no, no. >> we'll tell you about the pizza maker's face-saving move. and republicans never rest. ohio senator turner on the effort to block the vote in 2016. >>> and political comedian, baratunde thurston on how to talk to this guy at thanksgiving. ♪ i want my country back, country back, country back ♪ >>> good evening, folks. thanks for watching. someone needs to sit down with the republicans and explain to them how negotiations work. when you have no leverage, you don't get to make outlandish statements and demands. house speaker john boehner recently called himself the most reasonable man in washington, but in an editorial for the cincinnati enquirer today, boehner took the very unreasonable position of including obama care in debt negotiations. "the president's health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size
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Nov 24, 2012 4:00am PST
from opening doors on thanksgiving day? we're going to get some new perspective. the fiscal cliff, might a new wrinkle make it even tougher for the two parties to make a deal? it is one of the big hits of the season, the new film about abraham lincoln, and coming up, a unique take from doris kearns goodwin who wrote the book. imagine if this were your neighbor. one holiday display is drawing a lot of attention. that is in our one-minute playback. wow. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." let's get to what's happening right now out there. we have some new numbers today. as retailers begin to calculate black friday sales and whether it paid off to open on thanksgiving. all that, plus today is small business saturday, and cyber monday, of course, happens in just two days. nbc's michelle franzen is in n manhattan. >> alex, we've gotten through the first wave, the black friday, include being the early start that began on thanksgiving evening. so how did everything turn out? well, retailers say so far, so good. they saw a wave of people coming through, a rush of shoppe
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Nov 25, 2012 9:00am PST
table. then you have speaker boehner saying that he wants obama care on the table in the fiscal cliff negotiations in reality will that be on the table, obama care in. >> you know, this is a a genius move by republicans. they wanted to repeal obama care. they would have done it had mitt romney been elected and they can't do that. boehner has said repealing it entirely is a moot issue. but getting some concessions is probably the way to do it. in part because there are democrats who agree that changes should be made and even the president has said that it's not a perfect law. do the math. deduct it a little bit or make changes to republican care. you've got the workings of a grand compromise and everyone can walk away a winner by saying, look, we changed obama care, we're going to pay down the debt. who loses in that situation? certainly on the fringes people would say it's a bad deal but pretty much both parties could walk away and say we compromised and we fixed it. >> you want to write that up and send it up to the hill there? the other hot topic on "meet the press," the gaubenghazi attack t kil
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Nov 26, 2012 2:30am PST
top of the hour on "morning joe," republican lawmakers show signs of compromise on the fiscal cliff with some backing away from grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll discuss what that means for the livelihood of a deal ahead with the "morning joe" crew. >>> and when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cooler. we finally have a dollar value for what it would cost to ride a manatee. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] introducing the new dell xps 12. part of a whole new line of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ >>> we told you at the top of the show that a congressional compromise might be in the works that would keep the government from going over the so-called fiscal cliff at the start of 2013. if a deal can't be reached, the vast majority of american families will be affected starting on january 2nd. if you want to sound smart today. >> i want to sound smart. what should i do? >> read the next one. >> how do i sound smart? >> tell your friends 90% of american households would face higher tax bills for 2013 if congress can't come up
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Nov 27, 2012 6:00am PST
, something will begin to break. so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans who are needed at a minimum for boehner to get a deal done to get to the 218 overall. remember these republicans believe just as fervently as the white house does that they have their version of public opinion on their side. why can do we think this? when it comes to their own voter, both sides are right. the president won re-election fairly handily, but so did republican incumbents in the house. these are some stunning statistics that gerrymandering has created. 93% of the 205 house republicans who ran for re-election won. 88% of them won with 55% of the vote or
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